tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post115565189754446322..comments2024-03-24T05:54:23.612-05:00Comments on Weedon's Blog: St. Mary, Mother of Our LordWilliam Weedonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01383850332591975790noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-1155842862830740872006-08-17T14:27:00.000-05:002006-08-17T14:27:00.000-05:00Fair as far as it goes. We'll all have to wait fo...Fair as far as it goes. We'll all have to wait for the publication of that last document until the Piepkorn Centre and ALPB get it out, in another collection of his works I hear. From what I have heard of it, it sounds pretty much cut from the same cloth as his words and actions post New Orleans.<BR/><BR/>I was on campus in St. Louis from the Harms administration until the year before the Sem moved to midtown from Clayton. One, especially a historian, learns a lot in that amount of time. Pieps was one of my graduate advisors, the other was one of the five. I love them both.<BR/> <BR/>It is public knowledge that Pieps considered his call to have been taken from him, and was prepared to seek relief in the civil courts as the Synod's appeals mechanisms had long ceased functioning responsibly. He was totally determined to the clearing his name, and that of his colleagues, particularly his pastor, John Tietjen. Pieps made it known loud and clear that he simply would not tolerate being called a false teacher, or be part of an institution held such an opinion.<BR/><BR/>Do keep in mind that that pious self effacing little man had teeth of steel, and knew how to use them. It came down to not whether he would walk, but how.<BR/><BR/>Many bull sessions around the coffee urn in the department at VU of which Korby was often a part involved speculation as to how Pieps would have left campus. The consensus was that it would have been pure Pieps, one of a kind, though whether in his miitary uniform, or in vestments, or the simple garb of a priest, or all of the above, we'll never know.<BR/><BR/>So John has been cleared of all charges, much after the fact, Ralph has<BR/>reputiated his "A Statement" and neither the Sem or the Synod has shaken off the burden of what was done in their names,,,, and the strife goes on and only the names change.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-1155772196403656682006-08-16T18:49:00.000-05:002006-08-16T18:49:00.000-05:00Fr. Hank,I remember reading about the document in ...Fr. Hank,<BR/><BR/>I remember reading about the document in the type-writer. But I am leery of assuming that it indicates what he would have done. I write all the time. Some of things I write down, I wish that I had never written. Some I send out and act on. But just having written them doesn't, for me, mean that I've decided what to do. Writing is a tool I use to clarify my own thought often. So I'd be cautious in assuming that we knew WHAT the great man would do from that last writing - intriguing as it may be. Do you think that is fair? <BR/><BR/>Pax!William Weedonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01383850332591975790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-1155735726327885062006-08-16T08:42:00.000-05:002006-08-16T08:42:00.000-05:00Actually you know that was the point to which he h...Actually you know that was the point to which he had come, publicaly after New Orleans and expressed it more and more as the Preus machine worked its ways from there foreward. He referred on more than one occasion to the moral and theological incompetancy of said machine. The, I believe, soon to be published document found on his typewriter,, written the afternoon of his death, does tell the tale, including a legal aspect that got lost in the grief of his passing.<BR/><BR/>In addition, he could never have stayed after Martin S was rewarded with the presidency, which since the election of John Tietjen he constantly harped upon had been given to Tietjen despite the fact that he, Scharlemann, had been elected. It was indeed quite scarey to be in a classroom with him when he got off on that tangent. That event, and Martin's subsequent out of control behaviour was what triggered the walkout, by the way. I don't think even Ed Schroeder, his brother in law, knew the depths of Scharlemann's madness the way Pieps did. The way that madness was cynically played by the machine hurt Pieps about as much as anything.<BR/><BR/>The plan was to fire Tietjen, and three faculty and then magnanimously forgive the rest. Jack lost control of his machine after New Orleans and the inquisition became a utter self destructive purge. When Jack needed someone to talk to, he would make that observation, much to the derision of his supporters.<BR/><BR/>More history that you needed this morning, eh ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-1155678229326997652006-08-15T16:43:00.000-05:002006-08-15T16:43:00.000-05:00The big unanswered question is would he have walke...The big unanswered question is would he have walked? I like to think that he was more of a mind like Korby: I'm called here, darn it all, and you will put up the proof of what you are saying or you will retract it. But we'll never know, I suppose.William Weedonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01383850332591975790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-1155677753629569332006-08-15T16:35:00.000-05:002006-08-15T16:35:00.000-05:00How sweet it is,,,,,, thanks for posting it. My c...How sweet it is,,,,,, thanks for posting it. My copy is loaned out so I didn't get to read it today.<BR/>The older I get the more often I hear his voice when I read his work.<BR/>And all that coming from a person not to be tolerated in the Church of God. Sad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com