tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post3604448420669305016..comments2024-03-24T05:54:23.612-05:00Comments on Weedon's Blog: Old Lutheran Quote of the DayWilliam Weedonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01383850332591975790noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-6680771464530174082007-07-17T20:55:00.000-05:002007-07-17T20:55:00.000-05:00Which is to say that for us the very Words of Chri...Which is to say that for us the very Words of Christ ARE the epiclesis - they are alive with the power of the Holy Spirit. At St. Paul's, we frequently pray in the Prayer of the Church prior to the Preface:<BR/><BR/>Bless and sanctify by Your Holy Spirit’s power the bread and wine we bring before You that in truth they may become for us, through our Savior's words, His very Body and Blood, the nourishment of eternal life.William Weedonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01383850332591975790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-16516150658783591432007-07-17T20:51:00.000-05:002007-07-17T20:51:00.000-05:00Not needed in the sense in which the Calvinists me...Not needed in the sense in which the Calvinists mean: to transport the believer's heart from earth to heaven where the Body and Blood are to be found.<BR/><BR/>The close connection between the Holy Spirit and the Word of Consecration was once explicated by Dr. Luther in these beautiful words:<BR/><BR/>"For as soon as Christ says: 'This is my Body' his body is present through the Word *and the power of the Holy Spirit.*" AE 36:341<BR/><BR/>As my beloved Dr. Nagel always said, we agree with the East that the Spirit does the job, but we disagree with the East about where He does it. You say in response to the prayer that the Father send Him; we say through His intimate connection with the very Words of the Savior. "The words that I speak unto you, they ARE Spirit and they are life...."William Weedonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01383850332591975790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-74369864865324106522007-07-17T20:45:00.000-05:002007-07-17T20:45:00.000-05:00WHAT? The Holy Spirit is not needed? Lutherans d...WHAT? The Holy Spirit is not needed? Lutherans don't believe it is the Holy Spirit Who sanctifies the Bread and Wine and effects the change, making them into the Body and Blood?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com