tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post4333967434957462374..comments2024-03-24T05:54:23.612-05:00Comments on Weedon's Blog: Easter Lessons and CarolsWilliam Weedonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01383850332591975790noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-51357891728783173632013-03-23T11:53:04.613-05:002013-03-23T11:53:04.613-05:00For context: a pastor had asked if there was anyth...For context: a pastor had asked if there was anything like Lessons and Carols that could work for a Sunday in Easter when he would not be able to be present with his flock (i.e., no Mass). My own thought was that it would work also on one of the weekdays of Easter.William Weedonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01383850332591975790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-76292357918243949772013-03-23T10:13:46.242-05:002013-03-23T10:13:46.242-05:00So every time Christians gather, it must be for th...So every time Christians gather, it must be for the Mass? Don't get me wrong: I'd be over the moon if my congregation moved to every-Sunday Communion. But gathering for a hymn sing is somehow an encroachment on the historic liturgy? Did I miss something? I didn't see Will suggest that this would supplant the Mass.<br /><br />Rev. Alan Kornacki, Jr.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07322307218829558622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-63002908091700591192013-03-23T08:33:25.803-05:002013-03-23T08:33:25.803-05:00I think Pr. Weedon's order looks great on its ...I think Pr. Weedon's order looks great on its own. But the Vigil—of all liturgies—doesn't need a supplement. Cf. the Advent Lessons and Carols situation: the prevalent form of Advent L&C originates in the King's College service, which was formed "to bring a more imaginative approach to worship," according to their web site. Sounds a lot like what the CoWo crowd says today. The fact that the order is very popular (and rightly so, on account of its loveliness) doesn't make it "liturgy" per se, or a fitting replacement for the three Divine Services of Christmas—but many churches offer an L&C service in place of a real Christmas Eve Divine Service, and that means many Christians are deprived of what the liturgy has to offer on that day.<br /><br />Given that far fewer churches hold an Easter Vigil than offer a Christmas Eve liturgy, if an Easter L&C were to take off, it would have to be arranged so as to not take anything away from the Triduum. Such an order could be scheduled during the second or third week of Easter, or maybe the fourth. Any further and you start to encroach on Ascension and Pentecost (does LSB provide for a Pentecost Vigil?)... and you start to see that the historic liturgy already gives us everything we really need in that regard.Jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07785072699747468450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-17277663132919044512013-03-22T13:55:55.196-05:002013-03-22T13:55:55.196-05:00Chris--
I'm resisting my urge to be snarky (m...Chris--<br /><br />I'm resisting my urge to be snarky (my Lenten fast), and so I ask most sincerely, where is the line? What, in your opinion, is too much? Do we drop Divine Services 1,2,4 and 5 along with Morning Prayer and Evening Prayer as we have them in LSB? Can we no longer have the Advent Service of Lessons and Carols? Do we need to go back to the liturgy of Chrysostom? An earlier form?<br /><br />Heaven forbid we add another opportunity for the hearing of Scripture and the singing of hymns. This does not seem like someone is looking to replace the Vigil or the Mass, but rather to supplement it.Rev. Alan Kornacki, Jr.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07322307218829558622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-59197598296458658182013-03-22T08:58:14.888-05:002013-03-22T08:58:14.888-05:00Chris,
Take to heart these words of Schmemann: &...Chris,<br /><br />Take to heart these words of Schmemann: "In spite of a deeply rooted common opinion, liturgy always changes because it lives." (Liturgy and Tradition, p. 29). Think on this!William Weedonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01383850332591975790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-51222512895738438032013-03-21T23:50:03.906-05:002013-03-21T23:50:03.906-05:00Chris -
Fr. Weedon was not lacking humility in an...Chris -<br /><br />Fr. Weedon was not lacking humility in any direction, least of all, if you knew him, toward the historic offices and Liturgies of the Western, or Eastern rites (which belong to us as well).<br /><br />If you pay attention to the rubrics, you will discover that much of what Fr. Weedon posted here fits Luther's Deutsche Messe/Divine Service, Setting Five quite well!<br /><br />Pax - jbAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-16877646965572934232013-03-21T19:21:32.065-05:002013-03-21T19:21:32.065-05:00Or better yet, Lutherans could just stick to the t...Or better yet, Lutherans could just stick to the traditional and historical offices and Liturgies which have come down through the Western Rite instead of just making up stuff as they go along. Why not have some humility towards that tradition? --ChrisUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08038508116670615703noreply@blogger.com