tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post7328669894530327832..comments2024-03-24T05:54:23.612-05:00Comments on Weedon's Blog: And OctoberfestWilliam Weedonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01383850332591975790noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-35379765735590109872009-10-14T13:27:45.280-05:002009-10-14T13:27:45.280-05:00Personally, I prefer the 4 part Anglican tones (TL...Personally, I prefer the 4 part Anglican tones (TLH 662-667). Of course, teaching a congregation to chant even the one of the parts, I have found to be challenging (as we tried Matins for the first time without even a runthrough...) It was completely my bad in assuming they would be familiar with Matins. I've been blessed to have been "raised" on pages 15 and 32.mlorfeldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03138561905418684851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-6606158555434815832009-10-13T12:42:24.437-05:002009-10-13T12:42:24.437-05:00More serious and deforming than the loss of the to...More serious and deforming than the loss of the tones, were the loss of the old Latin hymns. Those have come back to us only gradually and usually as borrowings from Anglican work.William Weedonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01383850332591975790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-68724868462343162472009-10-13T12:40:55.515-05:002009-10-13T12:40:55.515-05:00Fr. Weedon,
AS you know Latin was retained in Lut...Fr. Weedon,<br /><br />AS you know Latin was retained in Lutheranism for about 300 years after its inception and so were the Gregorian Psalm tones. So, once the vernacular was adopted for everything, those went with the Latin? How unfortunate.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06200319733737651773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-26141240789189914712009-10-13T07:52:12.923-05:002009-10-13T07:52:12.923-05:00Sean,
I'd LOVE to see some tones in LSB form ...Sean,<br /><br />I'd LOVE to see some tones in LSB form that rang along more traditional lines. The LSB/LW/LBW tones have had this great blessing: they taught us to sing the Psalms again, and anyone, but anyone can use them. <br /><br />Chris,<br /><br />They were abandoned in Lutheranism when the Latin itself was abandoned. As I indicated to Sean, the challenge was: how do you teach a congregation that is used to speaking Psalms to chant them once again? I don't think attempting to plunge them into the Gregorian Psalms is the way to go (though the Lutherans in Germany have pulled this off with some success). The simple pattern provided a way to engage the whole congregation in chanting them once again, and it's been successful that way over all. But it is a simple pattern that a musician could seek to adapt the more complex Gregorian forms to. I'd love to see some of those!William Weedonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01383850332591975790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-82577333056562812262009-10-13T00:42:50.412-05:002009-10-13T00:42:50.412-05:00Why were the Gregorian psalm tones abandoned?Why were the Gregorian psalm tones abandoned?Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06200319733737651773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-5800187530791206602009-10-13T00:22:29.637-05:002009-10-13T00:22:29.637-05:00if you had some modified gregorian tones in the &...if you had some modified gregorian tones in the "LSB 3 note" form, would you use them? anyone can throw together an LSB style tone just as easily as anyone can throw together their own liturgy. That doesn't mean it's catholic. The LSB tones have no basis in the western tones, and are all toni peregrini.Seanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02637730997381642190noreply@blogger.com