tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post8965647069273718015..comments2024-03-24T05:54:23.612-05:00Comments on Weedon's Blog: Where angels fear to tread...William Weedonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01383850332591975790noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-20022959359620875882013-03-06T07:36:54.612-06:002013-03-06T07:36:54.612-06:00To screen or not to screen is NOT really the quest...To screen or not to screen is NOT really the question. The question is how to use the screen. I have seen screens that are more or less electronic hymn boards. They were unobtrusive and helpful. I have also seen a screen that was over powering in its presence.<br /><br />If I may draw an analogy to special effects in the movies. If you leave the movie raving about the special effects, then they didn't do their job. If, on the other hand, you leave raving about the message of the movie itself, then the special effects were properly used.<br /><br />- Rev. James T. BatchelorUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18197960532299504982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-73974535826084697522013-03-05T20:47:42.297-06:002013-03-05T20:47:42.297-06:00^Got it. Sorry for the miscommunique.^Got it. Sorry for the miscommunique.Rev. Furgesonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06257272912616392646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-35314109769450461282013-03-05T09:56:32.229-06:002013-03-05T09:56:32.229-06:00I think you read past me a bit. I simply mean what...I think you read past me a bit. I simply mean what Rev. Weedon pointed out about Hebrews 12, that sacramental worship on earth is actually entrance into the realm of Is. 6, Rev. 4-5, 7, etc. (hence Ex. 24-40 for the Israelites). Therefore it is still instructive, even though this present age is obviously neither heaven nor the new creation.Rev. Joshua Hayeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05265502288700164812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-5251474249335661762013-03-05T09:29:13.292-06:002013-03-05T09:29:13.292-06:00^ If you look at Rev. 4-5 for your divine service,...^ If you look at Rev. 4-5 for your divine service, there is no stoll, or lecturn, or pulpit. Everyone is in a white robe. There is no pastor. Also, considering heaven in Rev. 4-5 is not our final destination, but the New Heavens and Earth, it does not reflect what our eternal worship will be like either. We may yet have hymnals!<br /><br />As to technology, when electric lights were first introduced, people were upset because God is the one who was to illumine the church with natural sunlight and fire on the candles, not man-made light. Then microphones, then wireless microphones. These are still used at rock concerts and sporting events, but we don't have a problem with them in church. So, the fact that the culture has this technology of screens is not the issue, precisely.<br /><br />Rather, this issue comes back not to its cultural issues, but to our theology of worship and to our theology of the Word. The current issues over screens, is, in my opinion at least, a reflection on our general deficiencies in our practical reflection in these areas. And this is coming from a traditional liturgy, even 'high church' kind of guy.Rev. Furgesonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06257272912616392646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-29382152532662823372013-03-05T09:01:04.938-06:002013-03-05T09:01:04.938-06:00Look at Revelation 4-5, etc. There's a lot of ...Look at Revelation 4-5, etc. There's a lot of stuff there, but no screen. Screens get in the way. They show us images of things that aren't really there. Is that what Christian worship is about--an absent Jesus?<br /><br />I assume that worship on earth should reflect worship in heaven since heaven is actually coming to earth. Another way to say it is that our worship now is practice for worship in heaven. You might as well get used to worshiping without screens (and looking at your hymnal all the time!) because that's how it will be for all eternity.<br /><br />Your thoughts on technology are spot on. Because it is the idol of our age, these things are so much easier for us to abuse than to use.Rev. Joshua Hayeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05265502288700164812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-34344461905579461822013-03-05T08:42:36.176-06:002013-03-05T08:42:36.176-06:00I haven't seen an article on this topic for so...I haven't seen an article on this topic for some time and it actually was good to see it again. We need the reinforcement all the time, especially regarding worship (liturgy) which has suffered so much the past 50 years. The mind and soul seeking God needs God, not the world, and it is more and more difficult to find Him, even in church.ginniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13993754663155124374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-83898295822007794742013-03-04T22:06:58.292-06:002013-03-04T22:06:58.292-06:00Once you bring up adiaphoron, you've already l...Once you bring up adiaphoron, you've already lost. That word is used as such a rallying cry in the LCMS that even good aesthetics have irrevocably suffered beyond repair. As long as you cling to open questions in praxis and good order, corruption of doctrine is not far behind. Evidence? Look at the last 50 years.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08038508116670615703noreply@blogger.com