tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post116476175653398371..comments2024-03-24T05:54:23.612-05:00Comments on Weedon's Blog: A Back and Forth with the PopeWilliam Weedonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01383850332591975790noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-1165003401990491752006-12-01T14:03:00.000-06:002006-12-01T14:03:00.000-06:00I earlier observed that "The Church" is the hierar...I earlier observed that "The Church" is the hierarchs in union with the pope! and that this excludes the laity altogether.<BR/><BR/>Thinking about it some more, I now realize that since even the bishops exist only in and through the pope, and are legitimate office-holders only in subjection to the pope, what such a statement really means is, the Church is the pope!<BR/><BR/>AnastasiaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-1164827117693830892006-11-29T13:05:00.000-06:002006-11-29T13:05:00.000-06:00Aaron,Indeed! SA Part II, Article IV, Par. 9:The ...Aaron,<BR/><BR/>Indeed! SA Part II, Article IV, Par. 9:<BR/><BR/>The Church cannot be bettered governed and preserved than if all live under one head, Christ. All the bishops should be equal in office (although they may be unequal in gifts). They should be diligently joined in unity of doctrine, faith, sacraments, prayer, works of love, and such.<BR/><BR/>Sorta says it all... : )William Weedonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01383850332591975790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-1164813566449663402006-11-29T09:19:00.000-06:002006-11-29T09:19:00.000-06:00Good observation.Good observation.Eric Phillipshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00234407421710211220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-1164771981083814912006-11-28T21:46:00.000-06:002006-11-28T21:46:00.000-06:00Dear Anon,Thanks for the kind words, but I assure ...Dear Anon,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the kind words, but I assure you I am undeserving of them. I was just thinking through out loud some provocative words of Benedict XVI.William Weedonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01383850332591975790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-1164771458497130302006-11-28T21:37:00.000-06:002006-11-28T21:37:00.000-06:00Anastasia,That's very true. In the Tractatus, the...Anastasia,<BR/><BR/>That's very true. In the Tractatus, the Lutherans insisted that the Church is "more than" the clergy. Unfortunately the "super" there in the Latin was rendered by some as "above" creating the exact same problem in reverse! The Church is then envisioned apart from the clergy. The German makes it clear that the "super" in the Latin here must be taken as "more than."William Weedonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01383850332591975790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-1164770446890873782006-11-28T21:20:00.000-06:002006-11-28T21:20:00.000-06:00All very interesting, but to me, the *most* intere...All very interesting, but to me, the *most* interesting was this quote from the pope: "the Catholic Church, that is the community of the bishops among themselves and with the pope..." That definition excludes the laity altogether! "The Church" is the hierarchs in union with the pope!<BR/><BR/>I had long suspected Catholics thought that, but how interesting to hear it confirmed.<BR/><BR/>AnastasiaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-1164769301234653152006-11-28T21:01:00.000-06:002006-11-28T21:01:00.000-06:00Dear Pastor Weedon,What wonderful words you write....Dear Pastor Weedon,<BR/><BR/>What wonderful words you write. Thank you. Thank you for clearly confessing and affirming these things that are foundational to our confession as Lutherans. Your words are a blessing and used by God to strengthen hearts and minds that have been battered by Lutheran Pastors who are not so certain about what they confess as Lutherans. May God continue to grant you wisdom, boldness, and humility in your service to Him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com