tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post2002567908888405183..comments2024-03-24T05:54:23.612-05:00Comments on Weedon's Blog: Liturgies et Cantiques LutheriensWilliam Weedonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01383850332591975790noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-16955271208848202832010-06-10T10:48:14.050-05:002010-06-10T10:48:14.050-05:00CPH has samples of this new Hymnal on their websit...CPH has samples of this new Hymnal on their website. It also has a concordance, and its rather impressive to see how many hymns have been rendered into French. I think this will also be a blessing to Lutheran congregations in countries where French is the academic language, such as Haiti and Guinea. Concordia Publishing House has released many fine works in the past few years, and it is a credit to them that such a collaboration was accomplished.Rev. Allen Bergstrazernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-88522635529453702472010-06-10T10:24:26.307-05:002010-06-10T10:24:26.307-05:00I'd be interested to hear more about Point 2.
...I'd be interested to hear more about Point 2.<br /><br />My first thought was maybe it was a Huguenot thing, but that would fit St Bart's Day, not the Assumption. Which feast, btw, is to-morrow if you're Eastern Church. (They didn't have a Vatican II, so things didn't get all jacked around.)<br /><br />I think 15 August is still a legal holiday in France and most of its former colonies, so maybe it is part of a Protestant minority in a Catholic culture sort of thing -- "Eldest Daughter of the Church" and all.<br /><br />Since my French comes by way of the Tsarist court (my teacher as a kid was kicked out after the Revolution, I didn't learn French in a French environment. So I'd be interested in hearing more about this. Am I even close in my guess?Past Elderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10541968132598367551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-12589433407305159982010-06-10T08:07:32.439-05:002010-06-10T08:07:32.439-05:00Dear Pastor Weedon,
Thank you for your kind revie...Dear Pastor Weedon,<br /><br />Thank you for your kind review of the French hymnal.<br /><br />I'd like to offer a couple of quick comments to curious readers and yourself.<br /><br />1)Limitations of space and money prevented inclusion of the 1 year lectionary. However, if you look at the daily lectionary on page 275, you'll see that the Sunday readings are from that lectionary, so it does survive after a fashion.<br /><br />2)Unless you've lived as a small minority in an RC culture, as francophone Lutherans do, you can't begin to appreciate how sensitive something like August 15th can be. For anglophone Lutherans, this really isn't an issue, so it's hard to comprehend.<br /><br />3)CPH asked us not to use the burgundy colour so as not to confuse it with LSB. That's why we went with the Québec blue. It is clearly and intentionally within the LSB orbit, however. That was one of our aims in publishing the book. We wanted to have a common hymn language in both English and French for our synod (Lutheran Church - Canada). This is of great significance to our francophone Lutherans in Québec who can feel very isolated within our synod due to the language barrier.<br /><br />4)Most anglophone Lutherans are quite unfamiliar with the 400+ year history of French Lutheranism. This hymnal is a huge improvement over anything previously available and is proving to be a major source of encouragement to both English and French speaking Lutherans. I'll give 2 quick examples.<br />a)The last time the Athanasian Creed appeared in a French Lutheran hymnal was 300 years ago!<br />b)Never before has a French Lutheran hymnal (or any other for that matter) included the daily offices or the biblical text of the psalms.<br /><br />I could go on and on, but this post is already too long. I look forward to your review on the hymn section. Thank you again.<br />Pastor SaarPastor Saarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-89117744711650452872010-06-10T02:08:16.767-05:002010-06-10T02:08:16.767-05:00PPS -- please don't tell me they booted poor o...PPS -- please don't tell me they booted poor old Polycarp to his Vatican II date of 23 February!Past Elderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10541968132598367551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-58544512762107813822010-06-10T02:01:48.105-05:002010-06-10T02:01:48.105-05:00PS )did you really think I was done)
Wise move he...PS )did you really think I was done)<br /><br />Wise move hell. 26 January is the feast of St Polycarp. Just as Loehe or anyone else with a lick of sense. Timothy is 24 January and Titus is 8 February. Except for the 1960s novus ordo calendar and wannabes.Past Elderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10541968132598367551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-86265184062381507142010-06-10T01:49:33.729-05:002010-06-10T01:49:33.729-05:00Sounds bloody awful.
Just another Vatican II wann...Sounds bloody awful.<br /><br />Just another Vatican II wannabe, dumping the traditional order of lessons and the ceremonies previously in use, to borrow the phrases of our Confessions, for another Lutheraned-over novus ordo.<br /><br />If you wannabe Catholic, just swim the damn Tiber.<br /><br />We don't need Contemporary Worship in the form of Vatican II For Lutherans any more than we need it in the form of Willow Creek For Lutherans.<br /><br />Does make me remember how fun it was late at night growing up in Minnesota to hear, once the other junk went off the air, the French Canadian stations, which usually played Jazz.Past Elderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10541968132598367551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-52957449096770154082010-06-09T23:19:11.587-05:002010-06-09T23:19:11.587-05:00Hubert was a 7th-century bishop whose colorful lif...Hubert was a 7th-century bishop whose colorful life gives us today's Jaegermeister logo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubertus<br />Lambert was the bishop of Maastricht previous to Hubert: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambert_of_Maastricht<br />Maurice d' Agaune was a member of a Roman Legion which converted to Christianity and then they were all martyred: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Maurice<br />Edwige de Silesie was a 13th-century pious noblewoman: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedwig_of_Andechs<br /><br />BethanyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-33462824622715247692010-06-09T21:39:48.026-05:002010-06-09T21:39:48.026-05:00Do the French have something against the color bur...Do the French have something against the color burgundy? I see the hymnal design cover is the same design as LSB except the color (and the words).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-30200014574606988532010-06-09T17:43:32.682-05:002010-06-09T17:43:32.682-05:00Chris,
Um, YEAH.
Mike,
What, you guys speak Fre...Chris,<br /><br />Um, YEAH.<br /><br />Mike,<br /><br />What, you guys speak French up there? ;)William Weedonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01383850332591975790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-11817865391967808332010-06-09T17:36:09.504-05:002010-06-09T17:36:09.504-05:00Good also for work among French speaking Canadians...Good also for work among French speaking Canadians :-)Mike Keithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13555200228537464762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-61508653896131844992010-06-09T09:28:48.205-05:002010-06-09T09:28:48.205-05:00Why shouldn't the Gloria be the ONLY option? ...Why shouldn't the Gloria be the ONLY option? What else would there be (at least in the traditional Liturgy) except when it is omitted during the penitential seasons?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08038508116670615703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-59546701099204508182010-06-09T08:22:17.541-05:002010-06-09T08:22:17.541-05:00Will, I was teasing about the family de Maastricht...Will, I was teasing about the family de Maastricht. (There's no wink emoticon on your comment section.) I was going to make up something to the effect that we spent two whole days in Nagel's Christology class discussing Maastricht's contributions to that area, but that might drive you nuts trying to figure out who this person is. I'll google him.<br /><br />Isn't Maastricht the name of a city in Belgium? They speak French in parts of Belgium. A friend in the SELK lives in Belgium and is trying to start a French-speaking Lutheran church there. Perhaps they would be in the market for this new hymnal. <br /><br />I like the name of the book- Services and Songs. And I like the color too. Glad they retained the embossing as well. We had a baptism on Trinity Sunday and utilized the images on the hymnal covers during my sermon. Worked well as we had a number of attenders who are not normally in church.<br /><br />I'll try to get back to you with info on Maastsricht.<br /><br />JeremyJeremy Loeschnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-11621301151422088752010-06-09T07:19:12.718-05:002010-06-09T07:19:12.718-05:00Dan, sweet!
Jeremy, tell me more!Dan, sweet!<br /><br />Jeremy, tell me more!William Weedonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01383850332591975790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-23868968365572516242010-06-09T06:22:17.036-05:002010-06-09T06:22:17.036-05:00Will, I'm surprised you don't know who Hub...Will, I'm surprised you don't know who Hubert de Maastricht is! <br /><br />JeremyJeremy Loeschnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-22581718163263501942010-06-08T22:04:01.447-05:002010-06-08T22:04:01.447-05:00Clarification: we'll be working on the hymns. ...Clarification: we'll be working on the hymns. :)Dan at Necessary Roughnesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16449576018918167898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-85661398500989608652010-06-08T22:01:23.071-05:002010-06-08T22:01:23.071-05:00Pastor Saar is awesome. I can't wait until we...Pastor Saar is awesome. I can't wait until we get some of this stuff on Time Out. Coming soon!Dan at Necessary Roughnesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16449576018918167898noreply@blogger.com