tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post2402759711144557904..comments2024-03-24T05:54:23.612-05:00Comments on Weedon's Blog: St. RomanosWilliam Weedonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01383850332591975790noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-46498293925731490202014-04-26T09:54:52.536-05:002014-04-26T09:54:52.536-05:00Father, a blessed Eastertide to you as well. Certa...Father, a blessed Eastertide to you as well. Certainly an ancient piece; whether or not it is apostolic or not depends on whether one grants that corruptions can creep into the Church's practices and if so how they are to be evaluated. It is on the how of the evaluation that we disagree, of course. But despite disagreement about whether it is the will of Christ that we pray to His holy mother, it is certainly the will of Christ that we take refuge together in the shelter of His own divine mercy, and for that we may give thanks!William Weedonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01383850332591975790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-53187596280149059912014-04-26T08:26:10.247-05:002014-04-26T08:26:10.247-05:00This is not embellished "Eastern" Poetry...This is not embellished "Eastern" Poetry about God's Birthgiver; it is a mainstream prayer/Hymn sung at the Nativity Liturgy of the Greek speaking Orthodox Church of Alexandria around 250 AD. It is reflective of that which has been handed down only a couple of generations from the Apostles:<br /><br />Greek[edit]<br /><br /><br />Greek Text<br /><br />English Translation<br /><br />Ὑπὸ τὴν σὴν εὐσπλαγχνίαν,καταφεύγομεν, Θεοτόκε.Τὰς ἡμῶν ἱκεσίας,μὴ παρίδῃς ἐν περιστάσει,ἀλλ᾽ ἐκ κινδύνων λύτρωσαι ἡμᾶς,μόνη Ἁγνή, μόνη εὐλογημένη. Beneath your compassion,We take refuge, O Mother of God:do not despise our petitions in time of trouble:but rescue us from dangers,only pure, only blessed one. <br /><br />Pastor Weedon, I commend you that you have generally posted my comments (rare as they have been over the years). You enter the fray of dialogue by posting such a work of St. Romanus. Of course you will receive reaction from various quarters. But at least you do not treat this like an old Soviet Propaganda machine. A blessed Eastertide to you! Fr. Daniel HackneyDanielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04351586738869558601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-38678711682643171812014-04-24T15:51:27.442-05:002014-04-24T15:51:27.442-05:00We all know? Christopher, you continue to make me ...We all know? Christopher, you continue to make me very, very glad that I am not Orthodox. I wish you'd demonstrate to me where I said that any hymn of praise offered to the Virgin is sent back with a "return to sender" message. I'd DEARLY love to see it.William Weedonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01383850332591975790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-18038282344739406632014-04-24T15:25:30.317-05:002014-04-24T15:25:30.317-05:00Fr. Weedon,
Please don't be so naive. We all...Fr. Weedon,<br /><br />Please don't be so naive. We all know that Lutherans regularly are squeamish towards anything written about the Theotokos. Again, you can't have it both ways. How is it that Romanos' hymn to the Cross is greeted with such awe and respect while his Akathist hymn is vituperated and treated as filth. <br /><br />Even you have said, on an Issues Etc. program for Dormition, if memory serves, that any hymn of praise offered to the Virgin is sent back with a "Return to Sender" message.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08038508116670615703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-10439103293166652692014-04-23T16:36:57.338-05:002014-04-23T16:36:57.338-05:00P.S. Here's a medieval Western (and English) ...P.S. Here's a medieval Western (and English) poem that does a similar job:<br /><br />www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUmlNnylEzEWilliam Weedonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01383850332591975790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-39972831606204219712014-04-23T16:31:26.933-05:002014-04-23T16:31:26.933-05:00Just read the piece. What on earth was objected to...Just read the piece. What on earth was objected to? Poetic embellishment it is, surely, but with the intent of extolling our Lord through her who is His mother.William Weedonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01383850332591975790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-53330168775269255152014-04-23T16:24:42.776-05:002014-04-23T16:24:42.776-05:00Chris,
Sigh. Can either you or Trent show me the ...Chris,<br /><br />Sigh. Can either you or Trent show me the particular writing by a Lutheran rejecting Romanos' poetic approach to the Theotokos in his Akathist? I'm not familiar with a Lutheran critique of the same.<br /><br />And meanwhile: CHRIST HAS RISEN! HE HAS RISEN INDEED! ALLELUIA.William Weedonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01383850332591975790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-40573251457120343452014-04-23T09:57:08.255-05:002014-04-23T09:57:08.255-05:00Fr. Weedon,
Trent brings up a very good and valid...Fr. Weedon,<br /><br />Trent brings up a very good and valid point. Truth does not take a vacation even during eastertide, in fact, it is probably the BEST time to proclaim it. So, please explain the disconnect? Though you try, you cannot have it both ways.<br /><br />ChrisUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08038508116670615703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-44836899471510733162014-04-22T09:07:29.977-05:002014-04-22T09:07:29.977-05:00Agree. Forgive me.
Indeed He is Risen.Agree. Forgive me. <br />Indeed He is Risen.Trenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16689666817494650501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-55962415628682748422014-04-21T10:45:08.414-05:002014-04-21T10:45:08.414-05:00Trent, Easter octave strikes me as a singularly un...Trent, Easter octave strikes me as a singularly unsuitable tide to engage in polemical debates. Let's spend these days rejoicing in the death of Him who destroyed death and His resurrection bringing us life and immortality. Christ is risen!William Weedonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01383850332591975790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-48700444383311352262014-04-21T10:36:50.352-05:002014-04-21T10:36:50.352-05:00And yet when Saint Romanos the Melodist takes this...And yet when Saint Romanos the Melodist takes this exact form of poetic license and writes about the Theotokos in his Akathist, I seem to hear a different story from the Lutherans because all of a sudden he should be taken literally.Trenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16689666817494650501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-55795502043327150792014-04-20T13:04:48.521-05:002014-04-20T13:04:48.521-05:00Of course! Risen indeed! Alleluia!Of course! Risen indeed! Alleluia!William Weedonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01383850332591975790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-60027564133459183392014-04-20T11:28:39.704-05:002014-04-20T11:28:39.704-05:00Brilliant!
If I may, I would like to direct other ...Brilliant!<br />If I may, I would like to direct other people to it. That way the 5 people who read my blog might enjoy it too!<br />Alleluia! Christ is risen!<br /><br />Pax,<br />Tom SchroederPastor Thomas E Schroederhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08739826673292690207noreply@blogger.com