tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post8427211640278418374..comments2024-03-17T19:56:31.931-05:00Comments on Weedon's Blog: Commemoration of the MyrrhbearersWilliam Weedonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01383850332591975790noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-3590178173424229822012-08-04T13:00:04.637-05:002012-08-04T13:00:04.637-05:00Chris,
Never said you were "required to give...Chris,<br /><br />Never said you were "required to give affirmation" to art that you don't like. Don't know where you got that idea. How would you feel if I walked into your house and started criticizing everything in sight? Would you think I was rude? Even if my assertions might have some truth to them?<br /><br />Peace.<br /><br />JacksonJacksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00952991979294585904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-19722453162871555832012-08-04T11:42:52.551-05:002012-08-04T11:42:52.551-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Jacksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00952991979294585904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-65411947399084858242012-08-04T08:38:08.165-05:002012-08-04T08:38:08.165-05:00Chris, I'll leave you with a paraphrase of the...Chris, I'll leave you with a paraphrase of the words of our dear Lord: "the Church is not made for the calendar; the calendar is made for the Church." And as such the Church has this weird thing called FREEDOM to adjust the calendar to suit her needs - adding, subtracting, moving. It's been going on since the beginning of a calendar (which wasn't observed at the beginning). My suggestion: let Lutherans be Lutherans - and remember us in your prayers. We'll let Orthodox be Orthodox and not expect them to be Lutherans and we'll remember you in our prayers.William Weedonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01383850332591975790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-30695596664508252192012-08-04T00:29:41.134-05:002012-08-04T00:29:41.134-05:00Fr. Will,
The Lutheran calendar does have a lot o...Fr. Will,<br /><br />The Lutheran calendar does have a lot of absurdities. How the Lutherans can claim a western-catholic heritage and yet repudiate large parts of the calendar is beyond me. Still, I noticed that you still cannot give a justification for why the myrrhbearers are commemorated today. As for Joseph of Arimathea, he died on July 31 according to the Church's tradition. <br /><br />As far as the feasts you mention, there's a big difference between 1600+ years of unbroken tradition vs recent innovation.<br /><br />Jackson,<br /><br />I've known Fr. Will for a long time. He knows my scruples. At the same time, I didn't realize that I was required to give affirmation to art that I deem non aesthetically pleasing. I've been in a lot of Lutheran churches, in Missouri, in Kansas and here in Nebraska (all places I have lived) and very few times is the architecture worthy of praise. Too often the building looks like a big isoceles triangle. Inside, there is no artwork of good quality, generally. So, It's not like I'm spitballing or making baseless assertions.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06200319733737651773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-84578028373374248122012-08-03T21:03:15.610-05:002012-08-03T21:03:15.610-05:00Thanks, Jeremy! I missed that, but I sure am plan...Thanks, Jeremy! I missed that, but I sure am planning on listening.William Weedonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01383850332591975790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-35050059983755594012012-08-03T20:35:48.545-05:002012-08-03T20:35:48.545-05:00Will, and everyone else, Dr. Just had a very good ...Will, and everyone else, Dr. Just had a very good conversation on Issues, Etc regarding the myrrh bearers. I suspect you've listened to it.<br /><br />And your conversations on the parts of the liturgy have been very good!<br /><br />JeremyJeremy Loeschhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08089904111110332096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-64779173283110224392012-08-03T18:59:24.960-05:002012-08-03T18:59:24.960-05:00Chris,
I'm a long time lurker, first time post...Chris,<br />I'm a long time lurker, first time poster on this site. The last few times I've seen you post, you insulted the new art in the the international center, said Lutheran architecture was ugly, and called the inside of a Lutheran church "stark and bland" when I thought it looked rather nice. <br /><br />I think that is why Fr. Weedon's patience grows thin. <br /><br />Peace.<br /><br />JacksonJacksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00952991979294585904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-79531060466921167932012-08-03T17:05:34.591-05:002012-08-03T17:05:34.591-05:00P.S. As to why Joseph is commemorated this time of...P.S. As to why Joseph is commemorated this time of the year, you'll have to ask the folks who put together the Menaion!William Weedonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01383850332591975790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-87646468274047686662012-08-03T16:56:13.816-05:002012-08-03T16:56:13.816-05:00Chris,
Your "simple question" began wit...Chris,<br /><br />Your "simple question" began with an assertion:<br /><br />"The absurdity of the LCMS calendar strikes again." <br /><br />The calendar has always only partly been chronological, as you well know. We celebrate Christ's birth on Dec. 25; the Holy Innocents on the 28th; yet the visit of the Magi on Jan. 6. We celebrate St. John's birth on the 24 of June and a week Later the Visitation which happened prior to the birth. You do not call these absurd, I suspect, merely because they were done long ago.William Weedonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01383850332591975790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-36722060414377516992012-08-03T16:50:50.433-05:002012-08-03T16:50:50.433-05:00Double sigh. Fr. Will, I asked a simple question a...Double sigh. Fr. Will, I asked a simple question as to why the myrrh bearers are commemorated here. You responded telling me that I'm full of scorn and that I should repent. I will do no such thing as I have done nothing wrong. I don't care what calendar you use, but please tell me what sense it makes to commemorate them today. What is the rationale? Was August 3 the only day open? If it's so near to Joseph of Arimathea, then why is he commemorated at this time of year? St. Lawrence is commemorated on Aug. 10 because that is the day of his martyrdom and that makes perfect sense.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06200319733737651773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-61347989893738078712012-08-03T16:32:46.950-05:002012-08-03T16:32:46.950-05:00Sigh. Christopher, God bless you, but the scorn y...Sigh. Christopher, God bless you, but the scorn you continue to heap on Lutherans for not being Orthodox wears terribly thin. Think, my friend, of the fact that Lutherans are remembering and thanking God for the love and devotion that the myrrh bearers showed our Lord's most holy body and how they became witnesses to the resurrection, and the fact that we commemorate them on a different date than the Orthodox truly becomes a thing of insignificance, no? How is it showing devotion to our Lord to criticize fellow baptized for not observing your calendar when we are not part of your discipline? I suspect that their commemoration (so near to Joseph of Arimethea) was done in August to be near other feasts of love - such as St. Lawrence. But whatever the reason, I'd invite you to repent of this hyper-criticism and rejoice instead that fellow baptized are commemorating these blessed saints.William Weedonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01383850332591975790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7291232.post-75811253140301093482012-08-03T09:48:22.448-05:002012-08-03T09:48:22.448-05:00The absurdity of the LCMS calendar strikes again: ...The absurdity of the LCMS calendar strikes again: Why are they commemorated on August 3? It makes no sense. It would make far more sense to put the commemoration on some Sunday close to Pascha.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06200319733737651773noreply@blogger.com