Note: Bishop Obare, seen in this video presenting the cross, will be preacher at the installation of Pr. Harrison as the President of the Lutheran Church--Missouri Synod in the Chapel of Sts. Timothy and Titus on September 11.
I saw him in person once. I asked him about his views on apostolic succession, and I don't think he answered my question. However, I'm posting essentially anonymously, so no one who reads this should put any weight on what I said. Someone should ask him to give a more complete answer, though, in my opinion. (Archbishop Vanags, too.)
If at the installation Bishop Obare sneaks just a little tap of a couple fingers onto Pastor Harrison's head, maybe that will give him the apostolic succession for the LCMS. Wouldn't that delight you and your friends in the S.S.P.? ;-)
Is that in Scripture, the Lutheran Confessions, or the By-Laws of your Synod? I only ask the question to possibly demonstrate the weakness of Sola Scriptura. Or perhaps I am missing something
I was merely responding to the theory of the way succession works - of course, there are instances in history when it didn't work that way at all. But canon law requires more than one bishop to make a bishop. That such a theory cannot be supported from the Scriptures shows, in my opinion, not the weakness of sola Scriptura, but the weakness of the theory!
I predict he will not touch him and he shouldn't, in the sense of the group he leads. It would mean instant alienation for anti-Loehe, ueber-Walther, I see Romanizers everywhere camp. They are just waiting for him to slip up in this regard.
Do I subscribe to the theory? Jein. Would I like to see it? Yes.
Obare can grab Matthew Harrison with both hands and shake him 'til he's dizzy, and it will transfer no episcopating mumbo-jumbo. And besides, the synodical presidency is not a divine call to the Office of Public Ministry but an election to a corporate office by the--How did Loehe describe them? Oh, yes--"amerikanische Poebelherrschaft".
Are the poles of influence shifting?
ReplyDeleteOne can only hope...
ReplyDeleteI saw him in person once. I asked him about his views on apostolic succession, and I don't think he answered my question. However, I'm posting essentially anonymously, so no one who reads this should put any weight on what I said. Someone should ask him to give a more complete answer, though, in my opinion. (Archbishop Vanags, too.)
ReplyDeleteBe there for me, my friend:)
ReplyDeletePaul,
ReplyDeleteCertainly planning on it! Wish you could be there too. A joyous moment it will be!!!
If at the installation Bishop Obare sneaks just a little tap of a couple fingers onto Pastor Harrison's head, maybe that will give him the apostolic succession for the LCMS. Wouldn't that delight you and your friends in the S.S.P.? ;-)
ReplyDeleteWouldn't work. Takes more than one. :)
ReplyDelete"Wouldn't work. Takes more than one. :)"
ReplyDeleteIs that in Scripture, the Lutheran Confessions, or the By-Laws of your Synod? I only ask the question to possibly demonstrate the weakness of Sola Scriptura. Or perhaps I am missing something
I was merely responding to the theory of the way succession works - of course, there are instances in history when it didn't work that way at all. But canon law requires more than one bishop to make a bishop. That such a theory cannot be supported from the Scriptures shows, in my opinion, not the weakness of sola Scriptura, but the weakness of the theory!
ReplyDelete"Noli me tangere"
ReplyDeleteI predict he will not touch him and he shouldn't, in the sense of the group he leads. It would mean instant alienation for anti-Loehe, ueber-Walther, I see Romanizers everywhere camp. They are just waiting for him to slip up in this regard.
Do I subscribe to the theory? Jein. Would I like to see it? Yes.
Obare can grab Matthew Harrison with both hands and shake him 'til he's dizzy, and it will transfer no episcopating mumbo-jumbo. And besides, the synodical presidency is not a divine call to the Office of Public Ministry but an election to a corporate office by the--How did Loehe describe them? Oh, yes--"amerikanische Poebelherrschaft".
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