Our [Lutheran] Church in common with both the Roman and the Greek Churches, does hold to a true presence of the whole Christ, the factor of which is not our mind, but his own divine person... Faith does not put him there, but finds him there.—C. P. Krauth,
The Conservative Reformation, p. 343.
The Greek church says that this is the very Christ not just a mere presence. We confess the transformation of the elements without making guesses or suppositions as to how or when this transformation is effected by use of aristotilean logic. That isNOT the same as Lutheran doctrine.
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