Note: Bishop Obare, seen in this video presenting the cross, will be preacher at the installation of Pr. Harrison as the President of the Lutheran Church--Missouri Synod in the Chapel of Sts. Timothy and Titus on September 11.
I saw him in person once. I asked him about his views on apostolic succession, and I don't think he answered my question. However, I'm posting essentially anonymously, so no one who reads this should put any weight on what I said. Someone should ask him to give a more complete answer, though, in my opinion. (Archbishop Vanags, too.)
If at the installation Bishop Obare sneaks just a little tap of a couple fingers onto Pastor Harrison's head, maybe that will give him the apostolic succession for the LCMS. Wouldn't that delight you and your friends in the S.S.P.? ;-)
Is that in Scripture, the Lutheran Confessions, or the By-Laws of your Synod? I only ask the question to possibly demonstrate the weakness of Sola Scriptura. Or perhaps I am missing something
I was merely responding to the theory of the way succession works - of course, there are instances in history when it didn't work that way at all. But canon law requires more than one bishop to make a bishop. That such a theory cannot be supported from the Scriptures shows, in my opinion, not the weakness of sola Scriptura, but the weakness of the theory!
I predict he will not touch him and he shouldn't, in the sense of the group he leads. It would mean instant alienation for anti-Loehe, ueber-Walther, I see Romanizers everywhere camp. They are just waiting for him to slip up in this regard.
Do I subscribe to the theory? Jein. Would I like to see it? Yes.
Obare can grab Matthew Harrison with both hands and shake him 'til he's dizzy, and it will transfer no episcopating mumbo-jumbo. And besides, the synodical presidency is not a divine call to the Office of Public Ministry but an election to a corporate office by the--How did Loehe describe them? Oh, yes--"amerikanische Poebelherrschaft".
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Are the poles of influence shifting?
One can only hope...
I saw him in person once. I asked him about his views on apostolic succession, and I don't think he answered my question. However, I'm posting essentially anonymously, so no one who reads this should put any weight on what I said. Someone should ask him to give a more complete answer, though, in my opinion. (Archbishop Vanags, too.)
Be there for me, my friend:)
Paul,
Certainly planning on it! Wish you could be there too. A joyous moment it will be!!!
If at the installation Bishop Obare sneaks just a little tap of a couple fingers onto Pastor Harrison's head, maybe that will give him the apostolic succession for the LCMS. Wouldn't that delight you and your friends in the S.S.P.? ;-)
Wouldn't work. Takes more than one. :)
"Wouldn't work. Takes more than one. :)"
Is that in Scripture, the Lutheran Confessions, or the By-Laws of your Synod? I only ask the question to possibly demonstrate the weakness of Sola Scriptura. Or perhaps I am missing something
I was merely responding to the theory of the way succession works - of course, there are instances in history when it didn't work that way at all. But canon law requires more than one bishop to make a bishop. That such a theory cannot be supported from the Scriptures shows, in my opinion, not the weakness of sola Scriptura, but the weakness of the theory!
"Noli me tangere"
I predict he will not touch him and he shouldn't, in the sense of the group he leads. It would mean instant alienation for anti-Loehe, ueber-Walther, I see Romanizers everywhere camp. They are just waiting for him to slip up in this regard.
Do I subscribe to the theory? Jein. Would I like to see it? Yes.
Obare can grab Matthew Harrison with both hands and shake him 'til he's dizzy, and it will transfer no episcopating mumbo-jumbo. And besides, the synodical presidency is not a divine call to the Office of Public Ministry but an election to a corporate office by the--How did Loehe describe them? Oh, yes--"amerikanische Poebelherrschaft".
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