11 June 2011

Old Lutheran Quote of the Day

Just as the Father sends and pours out the Holy Spirit, so also the Son sends and pours out the Holy Spirit.  Therefore, the fact that the Holy Spirit is sent and poured out by the Son is tantamount to the Father's doing it, except that while the Son receives everything from the Father, the Father does not from the Son.  For the Father is the source or fountain (as the fathers call it) of the Trinity.  Yet what the Son has from the Father, he has essentially and fully from eternity.  -- Blessed Martin Luther, Homily 2 for Pentecost (HP II:169)

2 comments:

Chris said...

"Therefore, the fact that the Holy Spirit is sent and poured out by the Son is tantamount to the Father's doing it, except that while the Son receives everything from the Father, the Father does not from the Son. For the Father is the source or fountain (as the fathers call it) of the Trinity." Calling the Father the source or fountain is almost the same in Greek Orthodox thought where the Father is arche anarchos, the beginning without beginning. But this quote, to me, unhinges any possible logic of justifying the filioque for Dr. Luther.

Anonymous said...

Yet what the Son has from the Father, he has essentially and fully from eternity.

There was no time when the Son was not, therefore the Spirit is one with the Father and the Son.
Where is the problem?

Helen