16 October 2021

Ha! Starting a movement!

Well, at least Cindi and I are on board. She just got her new Bible: KJV with Apocrypha and all the original King James textual notes. It’s a really lovely edition. She saw how much I loved mine and decided to get one for herself. 

It’s a pricey little volume, but I’m planning on it being the last Bible I’ll ever use. It’s the perfect size. And quite easy to read. I love the old familiar words, the careful attention to Greek and Hebrew (evidenced in the notes) and the use of italics to show when they’ve added words to make sense in English. 

I’ve had mine now for over a year and I read it according to the schedule that was published in the original KJV, sadly not included in this volume. I’ve got a spreadsheet of it, though, if anyone wants a copy, give me your email.

Anyone else want to go back to the Authorized Version? 

Here’s where we get them:

8 comments:

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Unknown said...

I would love that spreadsheet Pastor Weedon! And yes, I would be all for a switch back to the AV! I recently acquired a KJV w/apocrypha from the 1950's, and I treasure it. Other than the Cameo which you have, they are, unfortunately, getting hard to find. Thank you for your work and God Bless!

William Weedon said...

You’ll need to give me an email!

William Weedon said...

P.S. I won’t publish the email. I’ll just send you the spreadsheet with it!

WindHymn said...

Hey Pastor:) Apologies for commenting on an older post, but I’ve only just discovered your blog, and I have to say I really love it. I only recently became a Lutheran (prior to this I was raised Baptist, although I was Baptised as a baby) but then after much prayer and study I became Presbyterian mainly because I was convinced from Scripture but also from my own experience as someone who’d been Baptised as an infant. Last year I began listening to Dr Rod Rosenbladt’s podcast Talks With Dad Rod - I always enjoyed his contributions to White Horse Inn - and I was really challenged when he said you have to ask yourself whether the Sacraments actually DO anything...and so I prayed and studied, and I was firmly convinced, and so I again changed my perspective; today I’m a Lutheran, and I finally feel like I’m “home” (well, as much as one can feel like that this side of glory).

I have returned to using the KJV for my devotions this year, mainly because I’ve been studying Textual Criticism over the past six years - only as a layman - but I’ve recently been convinced that the Ecclesiastical Text, or Traditional Text, as underlying the KJV and NKJV should receive more respect than it does from some quarters today. I say this humbly as I believe only the Lord really knows the truth about textual variants etc and there are godly scholars on both sides of the discussion. I can’t find much comment from Lutherans, aside from the writings and videos of the late Dr Theodore Letis, and also some videos by a Lutheran Pastor who talks about this occasionally.

I just wanted to know if your reason for using the KJV has anything to do with this, or is it just that you enjoy reading it? (I know there’s a lot of misinformation and ad hominem surrounding the issue of NT Textual Criticism, and I personally find it beneficial to use both text traditions, and my Church uses the ESV, which I’ve also been really blessed by. I say this just to point out that I’m not attacking other translations or text streams:)

Thank you 🙏

William Weedon said...

I love it because it’s overwhelmingly accurate (especially when you take into account the marginal footnotes of the original, which are almost all translational issues). I do happen to believe that the Holy Spirit preserved the majority text and I’m entirely comfortable with that.

WindHymn said...

Thank you so much for replying, I really appreciate you taking the time to do that. Sorry for my previous comment being so long.

I also just wanted to thank you for the videos about your experience with Orthodoxy. This is something I’ve also been drawn to and wrestled with, and it’s been extremely helpful to hear from someone as knowledgeable as you. I’m always trying to find my “blind spots” and I just want to be as correct as I can be (obviously imperfectly) in my understanding of Scripture, but these videos went a long ways to helping me.

Stay safe and take care 🙏

WindHymn said...

Sorry last comment I promise: I forgot to say this in response to what you said about the KJV marginal notes; yes, I’m currently using the New Cambridge Paragraph Bible which includes them, as well as the Apocrypha, although I’m actually going through the Apocrypha right now using the Lutheran Edition With Notes from CPH. Incidentally, when I was researching before buying that volume, I watched a couple of videos on YouTube where you spoke about the Apocrypha, and along with what you’ve written in your blog, this too was really helpful.

I’ve wavered between the Traditional Text and Critical Text over the years, but one thing that finally pushed me to the Traditional Text side for good, was reading “The Ecclesiastical Text” by the late Dr Theodore Letis. I think his arguments are absolutely compelling, and it’s a must-read for anyone interested in this.

One thing that has really drawn me to Lutheranism is the humility that says “I don’t know” where Scripture doesn’t say, rather than try to figure everything out using human reason. Some other traditions can’t seem to hold anything in tension, they go to one side or the other and end up in error. I loved what you said in one video about “Bucket Theology” just taking everything that Scripture says, and not trying to reconcile everything. As humans we hate mystery, we think we need to have everything figured out, but for me, this is one thing that proves Christianity is true; you can’t invent something that you can’t explain. I think the mysteries related to the transmission of the text that scholars have been trying to reconcile for all these years using just the evidence we have, kind of fall into that: there’s a lot of mystery and only the Lord knows the truth, but as you wrote, I believe that the Holy Spirit has preserved the Traditional or Majority Text.